Hi all

Can we please use this thread to list duplicate or invalid companies that are pending merge/removal.

I will start with

CORRECT - https://www.filmo.gs/company/9048-Village-Roadshow-Films-BVI-Limited
DUPLICATE - https://www.filmo.gs/company/32403-Village-Roadshow-Films-BVI-Limited

Thanks
sound.and.vision.

Correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/37943-ABC-Distribution
Duplicate: https://www.filmo.gs/company/71940-abc-Distribution-2

Btw. is there anyway you can change ABC to abc on the correct one?

merged those dupes, thanks oteis and sound.and.vision

Merged those entries. Thanks everyone

Thanks! Here is more:

Correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9266-20th-Century-Fox
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/133481-20th-Centrury-Fox
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/35707-Twenth-Century-Fox

Correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/8894-20th-Century-Fox-Home-Entertainment
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/10214-20th-Century-Home-Entertainment
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/143367-20th-Century-Fox-Homentertainment
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9689-20th-Centuy-Fox-Home-Entertainment

Correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/8895-Twentieth-Century-Fox-Home-Entertainment-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9513-Twentieth-Century-Fox-Home-Entertainment-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9498-Twentieth-Century-Fox-Home-Entertainment-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9875-20th-Century-Fox-Home-Entertainment-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/126134-20th-Century-Home-Entertainment-Inc

Correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9028-Twentieth-Century-Fox-Home-Entertainment-LLC
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9712-20th-Century-Fox-Home-Entertainment-LLC
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9319-Twentieth-Century-Fox-Home-Entertainment-LLC
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/134879-Twentieth-Century-Fox-Home-Entertainment-LLC
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9391-Twentieth-Century-Fox-Home-Entertainment-LLC
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/98558-Twenth-Century-Fox-Home-Entertaiment-LLC
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/135190-20th-Centuy-Fox-Home-Entertainment-LLC

Correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9012-Twentieth-Century-Fox-Film-Corporation
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/10217-Twentieth-Century-Fox-Film-Corporation
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9948-Twentieth-Century-Fox-Film-Corporation
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/33094-Twentieth-Century-Film-Corporation
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/33093-Twentieth-Century-Film-Corporation
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9711-20th-Century-Fox-Film-Corp
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/98557-Twenth-Century-Fox-Film-Corporation

There are so many of these... but it's a start. :)

whew, that was a big batch :) But all merged, thanks mirva!

This is going really well. Keep throwing more coal into the burner!

Correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9761-AB-Svensk-Filmindustri
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9702-AB-Svensk-Filmindusti

Correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/31238-Geneon-Entertainment-USA-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/33442-Geneon-Entertainment-USA-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9945-Geneon-Entertainment-USA-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/34656-Geneon-Entertainment-USA-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/55959-Geneon-Entertainment-USA-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/47861-Geneon-Entertainment-USA-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/48574-Geneon-Entertainment-USA-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/48576-Geneon-Entertainment-USA-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/48580-Geneon-Entertainment-USA-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/48604-Geneon-Entertainment-USA-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/55472-Geneon-Entertainment-USA-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/55481-Geneon-Entertainment-USA-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/55492-Geneon-Entertainment-USA-Inc

Correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/8909-The-Mail-On-Sunday
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9725-The-Mail-on-Sunday

Correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/10260-TriStar-Pictures-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9417-Tristar-Pictures-Inc

Correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/8955-Universal-Studios
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/10131-Universal-Sudios

And I'm a complete idiot creating this one, fresh out of the oven!

Correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/170316-One-On-One-Video
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/170315-One-on-One-Video

Thanks sound.and.vision, merged these now

merged, thanks oteis and sound.and.vision

Is there a possibility to not have the merged companies show up in search, delete them completely from the database?

Correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/10502-Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/115776-Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer-MGM
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/121307-Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9035-Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/10632-Metro-Goldeyn-Mayer
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9034-MGM

Correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9042-Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer-Studios-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/104054-Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer-Studios-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9630-Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer-Studios-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/164445-Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer-Studios-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/122444-Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer-Studios-In-c
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9793-Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer-Studios-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/10606-Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer-Studios-Inc
Incorrect [no releases]: https://www.filmo.gs/company/161129-Metro-Goldwyn-MayerMetro-Goldwyn-Mayer-Studios-Inc

Correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9367-Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer-Pictures-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/104072-Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer-Pictures-Inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/125454-Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer-Pictures-Inc

Correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9661-Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer-Pictures
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/10342-Metro-Goldywn-Mayer-Pictures

Also I'm not sure what to do with Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Home Entertainment as the correct spelling is not in the database.
https://www.filmo.gs/company/9036-Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer-Home-Entertainment
https://www.filmo.gs/company/10633-Metro-Goldeyn-Mayer-Home-Entertainment
https://www.filmo.gs/company/9040-MGM-Home-Entertainment
https://www.filmo.gs/company/65520-MGM-Home-Entertainement

merged, thanks oteis and mirva

Is there a possibility to not have the merged companies show up in search, delete them completely from the database?

@mirva: The merged duplicates should not be showing up in search nor browse views. But they still exist if you have the url (for technical and archival reasons)

Also I'm not sure what to do with Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Home Entertainment as the correct spelling is not in the database.

If you add it correctly, I can move the entries to the new correct submission and merge the dupes into that.

mirva: The merged duplicates should not be showing up in search nor browse views. But they still exist if you have the url (for technical and archival reasons)

Hmmmm. Looking into it more closely, some of them don't show up, but some of them do.
When I search for "20th Century", some of the merged companies still show up, for example:
https://www.filmo.gs/company/9875-20th-Century-Fox-Home-Entertainment-Inc
https://www.filmo.gs/company/33093-Twentieth-Century-Film-Corporation
https://www.filmo.gs/company/35707-Twenth-Century-Fox

Also, any chance the search results could also be sorted by type (Company, Credit, Release, Film)?

If you add it correctly, I can move the entries to the new correct submission and merge the dupes into that.
Alright, I've created it:
https://www.filmo.gs/company/172265-Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer-Home-Entertainment

Thanks again for all your work. :)

But how is "Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Home Entertainment" the correct one? The logo itself shows "Metro Goldwyn Mayer Home Entertainment"...

The correct spelling has always been "Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer" (probably because it was formed from the merger of three film companies), this can be confirmed from various sources, including their website.
http://www.mgm.com

Alright, it’s fine with me.

Thanks for clarifying.

Np. I should've included some references in the first place.

And another one:
Correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/55093-Shout-Factory-LLC
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/33172-Shout-Factory-LLC
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/10353-Shout-Factory-LLC

The one with a comma seems to be the official one:
http://www.shoutfactorytv.com/about

https://www.filmo.gs/company/142332-MVD-Visual-MVD-56330

Delete; User included the SKU/Catalog Number of the release with the company name.

Curious, as to the "Lions Gate" company name - it seems to have multiple versions on releases. I've seen it multiple times as "Lionsgate."

AFAIK, all of their companies have it as "Lions Gate", but the trade name / brand is Lionsgate.

@mirva:

Hmmmm. Looking into it more closely, some of them don't show up, but some of them do.

They should be reindexed for search when we merge them. I've set the ones you linked to be be reindexed. Let me know if you keep seeing this.

Also, any chance the search results could also be sorted by type (Company, Credit, Release, Film)?

This is actually a just released feature :) Look for the "type" filter in the sidebar on the search results page

Alright, I've created it

Merged!

Merged those other dupes as well, thanks everyone.

This is actually a just released feature :) Look for the "type" filter in the sidebar on the search results page

Nice, thanks! It makes figuring out all the duplicates a bit easier.

They should be reindexed for search when we merge them. I've set the ones you linked to be be reindexed. Let me know if you keep seeing this.

Alright, I will. :)

merged, thanks sound.and.vision

Another Warner Bros. duplicate:
https://www.filmo.gs/company/9656-Warner-Brothers

I'm guessing that some of those actually belong under one of the home video/entertainment brands as the logo is basically illegible, but that's another issue completely.

Fixed this last batch. Thanks everyone

fixed, thanks EK_ and oteis.

Is the amount of companies shown in the autofill now limited to 10? That's not a very good solution if we want to avoid duplicates. For example Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment LLC won't even show up in the list if, even if I type until the second to last letter.

Correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9028-twentieth-century-fox-home-entertainment-llc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/176167-twentieth-century-fox-home-entertainment-llc

These are duplicates:
https://www.filmo.gs/company/161062-buena-vista-home-entertainment-brasil
https://www.filmo.gs/company/148992-buena-vista-home-entertaiment-brasil

I guess they should be merged to the first one, even though "home" starts with a lower case letter. At least it's otherwise correctly spelled.

Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/181858-dosky-communications-europe-b-v

Typed a wrong letter, sorry. The good one is made so this one can be removed

Those should all be fixed, deleted or merged. Thanks everyone.

Correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/181900-lions-gate-entertainment-inc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/29273-lions-gate-entertainment-inc

Official spelling (no comma) confirmed from official website & California business registry.

QUESTION:

Are the Incorrect/Duplicate/Invalid company listings actually being deleted?

The whole point of this thread (I assume) was to remove the clutter from the database and help users to select the correct company. I've found many incorrect/duplicate/invalid companies still listed - with [MERGED] followed by company name (only on the page itself). HOWEVER, the incorrect/duplicate/invalid company is still listed in the drop-down (when entering RELEASE), with the only way to check if it is a good company by going to its page/listing.

Hmm that's strange EK_

When I now add releases which were plagued with dupe credits they no longer appear, so for example I only get one Universal now instead of about 10.

I'll double-check quickly...

The problem is that some of them seem to still appear after the merge, while some don't. If you browse up a little bit, you can see that I had the same problem.

I wouldn't mind if the entries were completely deleted from the database after the merge.

As others have pointed out above, trying to enter just 3 companies in https://www.filmo.gs/release/198275-the-party-to-parti all the incorrect/misspelled/merged etc. entries appeared. What's the point of doing the work then, if you still have to open each incorrect/misspelled/merged page in order to spot the correct entry?

Exactly.

DEVELOPERS:

  • What is the point of leaving INCORRECT companies as selectable? Just noticed a RELEASE with "[MERGED]MGM Home Entertainement" as the company?!?!

I get it...All the releases listed under an incorrect or invalid company have to be manually changed to the correct company - which is difficult, if not impossible, without the actual release or clear images of the actual release. Still, something has to be done to prevent this.

Almost all the MGM duplicate are either back, or usable again...

Here is another "Merged" entry with releases again:
https://www.filmo.gs/company/9035-metro-goldwyn-mayer

But, more importantly, this is what it looks like when I try entering "Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer":
https://i.imgur.com/nV9NW3K.png

( https://www.filmo.gs/company/10502-metro-goldwyn-mayer )

HIT Entertainment PLC

  • The logo is "HiT" (with globe earth as dot above "I") but the actual printed name of the company is "HIT"

Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/10174-hit-entertainment-plc
Correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/212591-hit-entertainment-plc

ALSO

https://www.filmo.gs/company/60139-hit-entertainment

Is listed as a BRAND in two releases. Not too sure how to handle "Brands"

DEVELOPERS -
Why aren't the incorrect companies being deleted? They still show up when entering a release. Defeats the purpose of this thread if these incorrect companies are still available for selection.

Deleted or merged the companies above. Thanks for the heads up.

Merged companies still showing up in the dropdown when linking them to releases was a bug. That should now have been fixed. Let me know if you still encounter that.

The rationale for keeping incorrect entries around is for historic reasons and for cases of dispute that might arise later. But merged/duplicate entries should not be visible in search results, when browsing or attaching them to a submission (but only if you have a direct link).

Merged companies still showing up in the dropdown when linking them to releases was a bug. That should now have been fixed. Let me know if you still encounter that.

It's still happening at least with the different variations of Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment LLC.

As there are some new duplicates, and new releases has been linked to the merged entries, so some merging is required again:

Correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9028-twentieth-century-fox-home-entertainment-llc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9391-twentieth-century-fox-home-entertainment-llc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/193820-twentieth-century-fox-home-entertainment-llc
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/157930-twenthieth-century-fox-home-entertainment-llc

Fixed those, thanks oteis and mirva. Let us know if you see merged companies popping up in the dropdown in the submission form again.

merged, thanks kwulf

thanks sound.and.vision fixed those

merged, thanks BadMoon

Thanks, but there is still a release on
https://www.filmo.gs/company/9949-cbs-fox-video-inc :
https://www.filmo.gs/release/3486-alien
"Distributor" and "Distributed by" seems the same to me but I can't edit, because there is a request to add a packaging format.

https://www.filmo.gs/company/278343-carolco-communications-gmbh
Invalid Company

Correct is VCL/Carolco Communications GmbH, which was the actual name of the company at that time, not a collaboration of two different companies.
https://www.filmo.gs/company/210993-vcl-carolco-communications-gmbh

merged thanks BadMoon and Dibb-s

https://www.filmo.gs/company/9671-live-entertainment-inc
https://www.filmo.gs/company/210430-live-entertainment-inc

Why was the "Inc:" deleted?
I thought, companies should be credited the same way as on the release?
Now I've added CNVs to most of the releases (those where the Images show the credit of the company).

merged, thanks sixandnine

@BadMoon:

Why was the "Inc:" deleted?

My bad. I guess I got that one wrong. We can re-add the inc. I'm a bit confused by these:

Not sure what should be the canonical one and what the title should be.

https://www.filmo.gs/company/9671-live-entertainment
this one would be correct with a capitalised Live and Inc. readded, it's the company name.

https://www.filmo.gs/company/36779-live-entertainment
this is correct as it is, as the label name / brand

alright, updated that. Thanks BadMoon

merged, thanks everyone

https://www.filmo.gs/credit/110958-entertainment-rights
https://www.filmo.gs/company/288541-entertainment-rights (the one above did not appear on dropdown, so I was forced to make this duplicate entry)

Thanks all, I've merged all except the two Entertainment Rights entries, as one is a Credit page and the other is a Company. Will look into how we're handling duplicates across different types and resolve soon. Cheers!

Thanks all, these have been merged

Troma Entertainment, Inc. is correct (if only as an ANV), according to that DVD of Rabid Grannies I added. More often than not, ", Inc." (with comma) is correct on releases, which is why I opted not to set it as an ANV. I don't know if the majority of Troma releases are labeled sans comma, though, to be honest.

Would be nice if we could get that sorted, if any Troma hounds have a bigger selection of DVD's to reference than I do (I currently own a whopping 2 titles, and only one--Rabid Grannies--has the comma, so it probably is an ANV, assuming it's in the minority of releases).

merged those, including the "Troma Entertainment, Inc", maybe that one needs an anv or more investigation like you propose morgue_sludge,. Thanks everyone

Hello all.

I mispelt Jay Edwards company first making it Jaw Edwards.

I re-made Jay Edwards but would like Jaw edwards to be removed.

https://www.filmo.gs/company/295799-jaw-edwards

That is a pretty amusing typo, all things considered.

True true but unless there is a company Jaw Edwards it would be useless here.

Discogs does have only one valid company profile for Warner Bros.
https://www.discogs.com/de/label/25946-Warner-Bros

Discogs does have only one valid company profile for Warner Bros.
https://www.discogs.com/de/label/25946-Warner-Bros

Correct, it's not a company credit, although the same company:
https://www.discogs.com/artist/208507-Warner-Bros

Well...an artist credits with a total of 15 credits that has ANVs for Warner Bros. and Warner Bros., Inc. ...O_o
This compared to a valid company profile that holds about 1700 SITES of credits.
Even the notes say that it should be used fror „Warner Bros“

These need to be merged 100% on filmogs.
And the search bug that „Warner Bros.“ can’t be found fixed ASAP.

Why is the pty ltd entry incorrect?
Looks like a valid company name.

Sorry I should have said merge as these are all the same company with Umbrella Entertainment being the advertised name of the company.

Sorry I should have said merge as these are all the same company with Umbrella >Entertainment being the advertised name of the company.

No.
Thats exactly the reason why these should NOT be merged.
All of them are valid entries.
Umbrella Entertainment Pty Ltd is a company.
Umbrella Entertainment is a brand.

Umbrella Entertainment Pty Ltd always appears as "released by".
While Umbrella Entertainment appears mostly as logo.
Or even as copyright holder or distributor.

To give you a round up:
Even a missing legal state (e.g. a missing "Ltd") would justify a seperate profile for a company.
There are cases where a company changed their legal state somewhen.
This needs or should be documented in the database.

There are also cases where ANVs are more appropiate.
For example: printed "Corp." but a profile with "Corporation" exists.

We also don't just merge all the Warner Bros. profiles dont we?
Please make yourself familiar with brands and companies...and maybe the wiki.
Do you know discogs? It might help to read up the guidelines there!
Thanks.

The only profile thats wrong is:

Incorrect:
https://www.filmo.gs/company/61172-umbrella

Have developers abandoned this thread?

Have developers abandoned this thread?

I’ve messaged the developers through the bubble button.

Hi, sorry for the delay here, we've had some problems with the merge function lately but we're back on track. Thanks for your patience, these have all been merged now.

But there are still releases on merged companies?!
https://www.filmo.gs/company/176696-warner-bros-invalid

And the external links on the other .ogs sites should be adjusted too; I don't think it's meaningful to link to a merged entry.

Can someone figure out what the is the correct version of this company?
I do not own this release and cannot determine.

incorrect (typo)
https://www.filmo.gs/company/9620-universal-picture-video-france

Can someone figure out what the is the correct version of this company?
I do not own this release and cannot determine.

Sorry no.
either it is
https://www.filmo.gs/company/176154-universal-picture-video-france-s-a
or
https://www.filmo.gs/company/254845-universal-picture-video-france-s-a-s

Sorry no.
either it is
https://www.filmo.gs/company/176154-universal-picture-video-france-s-a
or
https://www.filmo.gs/company/254845-universal-picture-video-france-s-a-s

Are you sure it isn’t Universal Pictures Video? It doesn’t sound logic at all that the company is called Universal Picture Video.

You are right, it is Pictures, not Picture.

So all of those are incorrect.

So all of those are incorrect.

Well, not anymore ;)

merged or deleted all of those, thanks everyone.

I have plenty of releases which the company - on packaging - reads "Pioneer Entertainment (USA), Inc."

So keeping both?
By now all releases that were added to the database that carry the one with comma do actually also carry the one without comma.
So looks like a Variation to me.
+ At the moment there are definately more releases in the database that carry the one without a comma.

Merged those, thanks everyone.

Oh argh i kinda renamed one of the rename or delete is that okay?

Or allowed

Could somebody of the staff please get in contact with sTemwinder7????
With most of the submissions he's doing he either creates invalid films or duped company profiles.
This is getting really annoying.

correct:
https://www.filmo.gs/company/9862-columbia-tristar-home-video
dupe:
https://www.filmo.gs/company/309576-columbia-tri-star-home-video

I found 5 Metro - Goldwyn - Mayer Inc why is there 5?

One was made by stemwind which is a dupe

Dupe - https://www.filmo.gs/company/309328-metro-goldwyn-mayer-inc
Dupe - https://www.filmo.gs/company/287480-metro-goldwyn-mayer-inc
Dupe - https://www.filmo.gs/company/221869-metro-goldywn-mayer-inc

There is another one that states a reel company

https://www.filmo.gs/company/293711-metro-goldwyn-meyer-inc

Real - https://www.filmo.gs/company/10517-metro-goldwyn-mayer-inc

Please i am unsjue and confushed by so many of 1 company

User sTemwinder7 strikes again -.-

None of the releases listed under "MCA/Universal Home Video, Inc." has this company name actually printed.
All of them say "MCA Home Video, Inc."

In fact, a company named "MCA/Universal Home Video, Inc." doesnt exist.

correct:
https://www.filmo.gs/company/10209-mca-home-video-inc
incorrect:
https://www.filmo.gs/company/311460-mca-universal-home-video-inc

The staff will have a busy job i saw him add a few more items.

Correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/82617-france-3-cinema
Incorrect: https://www.filmo.gs/company/39569-france-3-cinema

Though truthfully much packaging mislabels without the accent.

correct: https://www.filmo.gs/company/9244-warner-bros-entertainment-inc

the problem is, it doesn’t show up when adding a new release.

NO CONTENT; NOT A COMPANY? DELETE

https://www.filmo.gs/company/9737-steelbook

EK wrote_:

NO CONTENT; NOT A COMPANY? DELETE

https://www.filmo.gs/company/9737-steelbook

That one could be re named and re used

I don't understand what you mean, Jo_Store. Every entry here could be reused (or hijacked, for that matter).

It seems like a strange precedent to set, recycling pages by changing details. I feel like it could create a lot more problems than it solves in the long run.

morgue_sludge wrote:

I don't understand what you mean, Jo_Store. Every entry here could be reused (or hijacked, for that matter).

It seems like a strange precedent to set, recycling pages by changing details. I feel like it could create a lot more problems than it solves in the long run.

i asked here https://www.filmo.gs/forum/321683-can-we-rename-duplicate-companies-and-credits

people say yes

"People" being one guy. But okay!

duplicate https://www.filmo.gs/company/327921-world-championship-wrestling

i told the ser its the wrong company but refuses to listen and resumes to use the duplicate.

correct
https://www.filmo.gs/company/315793-wcw-home-video

duplicate https://www.filmo.gs/company/327921-world-championship-wrestling

ckrrect https://www.filmo.gs/company/315793-wcw-home-video

user refushes to use correct company i told user few times wro g company

I did not refuse, I just didn't notice the message till later.

Also I know my wrestling and I'm pretty sure that WCW never had a "home video" service in the same vain as the WWF/E, I will stand corrected as I'm not big on the American side of things, but from my understanding, after Turner bought into WCW his other companies distributed their videos. That pages was in regard to the company that owned the rights at time of distribution of the footage.

Either way I did later correct on the pages I made.

Also I know this is about company duplicates, but I seem to have accidently make two pages on the same thing.
https://www.filmo.gs/release/327678-wwf-wrestlemania-x8
https://www.filmo.gs/release/327712-wwf-wrestlemania-x8

I got a little carried away the other day after fiding this place, and one of the reasons for me to use this site I need to generate myself.

and one of the reasons for me to use this site I need to generate myself

What does that mean?!

TheWho87 wrote:

I did not refuse, I just didn't notice the message till later.

Also I know my wrestling and I'm pretty sure that WCW never had a "home video" service in the same vain as the WWF/E, I will stand corrected as I'm not big on the American side of things, but from my understanding, after Turner bought into WCW his other companies distributed their videos. That pages was in regard to the company that owned the rights at time of distribution of the footage.

Either way I did later correct on the pages I made.

Also I know this is about company duplicates, but I seem to have accidently make two pages on the same thing.
https://www.filmo.gs/release/327678-wwf-wrestlemania-x8
https://www.filmo.gs/release/327712-wwf-wrestlemania-x8

I got a little carried away the other day after fiding this place, and one of the reasons for me to use this site I need to generate myself.

did you have every copy of the wcw ppvs vhs in front of you to check and every copy on dvd?

cause on the one Bnoi submitted i checked unless i saw wrong it says wcw home video

woops got them mixed up the vhs one says wcw home video not the dvd copy.

its printed as wcw on some releses described in the description on the page by bnoi.

and nobody said you did not know your wrestling.

EK wrote_:

and one of the reasons for me to use this site I need to generate myself

What does that mean?!

I havea large collecction of wrestling VHS/DVD's and was looking for a way to record what I have and see what I'm missing, but the wrestling section here seems lacking.

Jo_Store wrote:

did you have every copy of the wcw ppvs vhs in front of you to check and every copy on dvd?

cause on the one Bnoi submitted i checked unless i saw wrong it says wcw home video

Unfortunately I'm not that lucky, I do have a few from both ranges of UK releases the rest I found through a site that had scans of covers, also to my knowledge WCW did not produce any DVDs while they were active, there is one rumored in Japan but I've never come across any official release.

TheWho87 wrote:

EK wrote_:

and one of the reasons for me to use this site I need to generate myself

What does that mean?!

I havea large collecction of wrestling VHS/DVD's and was looking for a way to record what I have and see what I'm missing, but the wrestling section here seems lacking.

Jo_Store wrote:

did you have every copy of the wcw ppvs vhs in front of you to check and every copy on dvd?

cause on the one Bnoi submitted i checked unless i saw wrong it says wcw home video

Unfortunately I'm not that lucky, I do have a few from both ranges of UK releases the rest I found through a site that had scans of covers, also to my knowledge WCW did not produce any DVDs while they were active, there is one rumored in Japan but I've never come across any official release.

argh did you eve read the rules?

  1. rule site states taking info from 3rd party sities is forbiddon, and clearly states YOU MUST HAVE THE RELEASE IN YOUR POSSESION.

so please stop taking info from websities untill you have the release infront of you.

most of the current wcw dvds are made by wwe the older ones are copyrighted by wcw like the ecw dvds they were made by RF Video some by a france company.

I will admit I don't physically own every title I have put in, I do however have a couple of Silver Vision's old catalogs that have their product codes and titles that I'm using against the cover scans to confirm and double check. Although checking through the rules it does state "or a set of high quality images that gives enough detail of the object", which I'd argue that the cover scans from this website fall under.
http://worldwrestlingcovers.weebly.com/wwfwwe-vhs.html

WWE has NEVER released a single WCW event on DVD, they have released their own documentaries with matches from the WCW video archive that they purchased in 2001 but have NEVER reprinted any WCW events outside their network. If you have evidence to the contrary to this I'd love to see it and be gladly proven wrong. The closest they have ever come to re-releasing any WCW or ECW event is including Barely Legal with one of the One Night Stand DVD's.

ECW had an officially liscenced UK/European DVD distribution while they were an active promotion through Delta Entertainment and I should know because I own around hald of them across VHS and DVD.

Just add YOUR collection. Simple.

EK wrote_:

Just add YOUR collection. Simple.

I already have that in a text file on my computer and backed up on a USB, my goal was to transfer that info here and use this site the same way I use discogs, to see where there are gaps and to look into possibly filling them. And seeing the lack of info on Silver Vision releases here I thought I'd use my knowledge, my physical media and a few of their old catalogs, which included a couple VHS clearance lists, to get this info down.

Oh well, apologies for doing something I thought would be helpful but apparently isn't, feel free to delete anything I created as it may have been generated from a questionable source, as well as apologies for any inconvenience caused, and for veering this thread off topic, none of this was my intent.

I think you misunderstood...

Just add YOUR collection - the actual home video releases that you own - to filmogs. Simple.

That IS helpful to the site.

wcw gretesr ppv was made by wwe home video

rey mystrrio 3 dvd set featured wcw matches

steve austin e dvd set featured wcw matches

they are all made by wwe home video btw and all 3 i have.

i will stop now due to this running off topic

Just add YOUR collection - the actual home video releases that you own - to filmogs. Simple.

That IS helpful to the site.

+1, filmogs is filled with gaps, as is discogs. Together we are building this by adding our own collection.

nope, it is incorrect idefix23.

Twenthieth = Twentieth

Did there used to be a "Metro Goldyn Mayer" company that was removed or merged withh another company? Right now there is a "Metro Goldyn Mayer (2)" company without the former. Should this existing entr be renamed to "Metro Goldyn Mayer"?

https://www.filmo.gs/company/274838-metro-goldwyn-mayer-2

Oh brother... wasn't this its own thread not too long ago?

https://www.filmo.gs/forum/317357-not-able-to-find-the-correct-metro-goldwyn-mayer

Part of the issue is users are adding things that are not companies (brands, logos, series, etc.) and cluttering up the database.

You are incorrect Jo_Store. BOTH A.D.V. Films (appears on VHS stuff) and ADV Films (later DVD releases) appear. Not writing about the logo.

people have put vhs and dvd in both so they need clearing up to which one is for VHS and what one is for DVD.

Very easy. Look on back cover. Take Princess Nine: Bases Loaded! DVD "ADV Films" not "A.D.V. Films" - needs corrected

You are incorrect Jo_Store. BOTH A.D.V. Films (appears on VHS stuff) and ADV Films (later DVD releases) appear. Not writing about the logo.

Seems to me an ANV for one of those would be correct if it is the same company.

better ask the staff :/

is cbs/fox company same as cbs/fox video

on a vhs release it says copyright cbs/fox company a division of cbs/fox video.

i did not make the release.

@EK mattjackaon will keep changing the image i had an image war with him until i stopped.

USERS CONTINUE TO CREATE INCORRECT COMPANIES

DEVELOPERS, COMPANIES NEED TO BE MONITORED

CORRECT - https://www.filmo.gs/company/9042-metro-goldwyn-mayer-studios-inc

INCORRECT - https://www.filmo.gs/company/180600-metro-goldwyn-mayer-studios-inc
INCORRECT - https://www.filmo.gs/company/313812-metro-goldwyn-mayer-studios-inc
INCORRECT - https://www.filmo.gs/company/323999-metro-goldwyn-mayer-studios-inc

(NOTE: CORRECT COMPANY HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED - SEE EARLY POST IN THIS THREAD; IF COMMA APPEARS IN COMPANY NAME, ADD AS NAME VARIATION)

ALSO! THESE "MERGED" COMPANIES STILL APPEAR AS VALID OPTIONS

https://www.filmo.gs/company/10606-metro-goldwyn-mayer-studios-inc
https://www.filmo.gs/company/104054-metro-goldwyn-mayer-studios-inc

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CORRECT - https://www.filmo.gs/company/9028-twentieth-century-fox-home-entertainment-llc

INCORRECT - https://www.filmo.gs/company/319210-twentieth-century-fox-home-entertainment-llc

(NOTE: USER REVERTED "WARNING" IMAGE BACK TO LOGO; CHANGED BACK TO "WARNING")

TO BE DETERMINED

https://www.filmo.gs/credit/345936-usa-films
(SEEMS OK)

https://www.filmo.gs/company/126634-usa-film
(IS THIS A VALID COMPANY?)

<h2 class="headertext" id="">====</h2>

https://www.filmo.gs/company/125829-usa-films-llc
(VALID? NO COMMA?)

https://www.filmo.gs/company/218075-usa-films-llc
(THIS COULD BE VALID, EXCEPT "." AT END)

THIS COMPANY "MERGED" BUT STILL ACCESSABLE
https://www.filmo.gs/company/126134-20th-century-home-entertainment-inc

THESE ARE INCORRECT - MISSING "FOX" IN NAME (ACTUALLY ALL THE "COMPANIES" THAT START WITH "20TH CENTURY FOX" ARE INCORRECT - THOSE ARE LOGOS BEING INDEXED AS COMPANIES)
https://www.filmo.gs/company/229473-20th-century-home-entertainment

https://www.filmo.gs/company/146635-20th-century-home-entertainment-benelux-b-v

EK wrote_:

(ACTUALLY ALL THE "COMPANIES" THAT START WITH "20TH CENTURY FOX" ARE INCORRECT - THOSE ARE LOGOS BEING INDEXED AS COMPANIES)

What???

I did not know a Logo could be a copyright Holder. I've always thought that a Company was needed for that.

EXACTLY!!!!

Part of the problem with many of the Metro-Goldyn-Mayer studio company credits is that many of the legitimate companies have spaces between these words and the dash characters and a few of the "legitimate" ones don't, with the legitimate ones in these cases having no spaces between them. Just look at this release that I added that is confusing to contributors as to what the convention should be when search for adding companies in these instances. Look here:

https://www.filmo.gs/release/346583-not-without-my-daughter

There are two I believe "legitimate" companies added here with different conventions in this "spacing".

https://www.filmo.gs/company/343592-metro-goldwyn-mayer

and

https://www.filmo.gs/company/9042-metro-goldwyn-mayer-studios-inc

The second example following the convention of spacing of the first company goes to a "bad" company link here, which instructs you to make the link with the one I replaced.

https://www.filmo.gs/company/323999-metro-goldwyn-mayer-studios-inc

When one is typing this company with spacing or not, you see a bunch of different companies, and don't see the one with the variant of the comma as the problem page indicates might be the source of the problem for the person adding the release, when they likely didn't see the good company the way they were typing it in.

PLEASE stop making new MGM entries. The developers have already determined "correct" versions. Use the name variant thing if you must.

CORRECT - https://www.filmo.gs/company/10502-metro-goldwyn-mayer

INCORRECT - https://www.filmo.gs/company/343592-metro-goldwyn-mayer

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CORRECT - https://www.filmo.gs/company/9367-Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer-Pictures-Inc

INCORRECT - https://www.filmo.gs/company/294168-metro-goldwyn-mayer-pictures-inc

plus https://www.filmo.gs/company/125454-metro-goldwyn-mayer-pictures-inc was merged to entry 9367 BUT STILL APPEARS IN DROP DOWN AS VALID OPTION AND HAS RELEASES STILL LINKED TO IT

-

CORRECT - https://www.filmo.gs/company/287480-metro-goldwyn-mayer-inc

INCORRECT - https://www.filmo.gs/company/310624-metro-goldwyn-mayer-inc

mirva wrote:

The correct spelling has always been "Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer" (probably because it was formed from the merger of three film companies), this can be confirmed from various sources, including their website.
http://www.mgm.com

What is strange is that at times when you try to create a new release, and you are adding a company, the entry for the incorrect company will show up when you start typing "Metro -", but nothing will show up when you start typing "Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer", nothing will show up until you enter the space afterwards as follows. "Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer ". If people start typing "Metro ", then they see a lot of the other entries for "Metro -"* entries, both those that are looked on as good companies and those that are duplicates and look at that as the convention. It would be nice if "Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Inc." would show up as one of the options as you are typing "Metro" to encourage one to select the right company entry to start with.

(Edit: I subsequently tried this again, and the second time the interface altered behavior and DID start showing other entries when starting to type "Metro". So there is perhaps some state situation that has at times when one starts typing "Metro" or "Metro-" that doesn't yield any companies. Hard for me to isolate here...)

And perhaps some of the "valid" "Metro" company entries such as:

https://www.filmo.gs/company/311273-metro-goldwyn-mayer-distribution-co

https://www.filmo.gs/company/309328-metro-goldwyn-mayer-inc

https://www.filmo.gs/company/310624-metro-goldwyn-mayer-inc

be updated to be "Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer" instead of "Metro - Goldwyn - Mayer"* along with the software updated so that the person entering a company could see all "Metro" entries as they start typing "Metro" and not just those with a space after the word "Metro" in the company name. I think that would encourage those adding releases to use the proper companies when they see all of the companies available, and not create any other variants that they "don't see" that have more bad company entries on the list.

THOSE ARE NOT VALID COMPANIES. sTemwinder7 continually makes the same invalid entries over and over.

CORRECT - https://www.filmo.gs/company/287480-metro-goldwyn-mayer-inc

INCORRECT - https://www.filmo.gs/company/309328-metro-goldwyn-mayer-inc
INCORRECT - https://www.filmo.gs/company/310624-metro-goldwyn-mayer-inc

THESE HAVE ALREADY BEEN LISTED IN THIS FORUM POST.

they are both from 5 months ago, i have not seen stermwinder7 make a dupe company / credit for a long time.

DELETE - https://www.filmo.gs/company/276368-pixar-2

THIS AND ABOVE "DISNEY (2)" USED FOR BOOTLEG RELEASE - NOT VALID COMPANIES

DELETE - https://www.filmo.gs/company/274903-sony-pictures-2

THIS USED FOR BOOTLEG RELEASES - NOT VALID COMPANY

I think a recent software update might have made it impossible to add the valid "Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer" company to a release now.

https://www.filmo.gs/company/10502-metro-goldwyn-mayer

When I cut and pasted that from the valid page to a newer release, it doesn't show that company but only gives the option to create a company. I went ahead and allowed it to "create" a company, thinking that it might find the valid one, but it didn't. It created this company instead with my one entry in it.

https://www.filmo.gs/company/347909-metro-goldwyn-mayer

I went back in to edit it, thinking this time it would find the valid company, but it now finds neither of these two, the good one nor the one just created. I think a software change needs fixing to ensure there's a way to get more releases added to the valid company there.

We need some duck tape it fixes everything

But yeah that company bug is a pain im having on with credits.

Woops, sorry for the dupe post.

These need merging:

https://www.filmo.gs/company/307406-rca-columbia-pictures-international-video - correct name as enscribed by the company itself.

https://www.filmo.gs/company/88419-rca-columbia-pictures-international-video - correct logo image

I have a promo vhs release that features both enscribed and logo visualistion.

These need merging:

https://www.filmo.gs/company/307406-rca-columbia-pictures-international-video - correct name as enscribed by the company itself.

https://www.filmo.gs/company/88419-rca-columbia-pictures-international-video - correct logo image

I have a promo vhs release that features both enscribed and logo visualistion.

like mikewn I'm also sorry for the dupe post. Those tiny moving dots on the tab being the sole indication filmogs is grinding away will never deter these double posts...

@EK here is another bootleg company i found.

https://www.filmo.gs/company/277523-europacorp-2

Alright, think we're mostly caught up on these dupes. There were some were there wasn't a candidate to merge into or where I was unsure which was the correct submission, sure we will get to them eventually. Thanks for the heads up everyone.

Its also clear that we need a more sustainable solution to manage these and an improvement to the search in the submission form. We are working on both of those, thanks for your patience.

mikewn wrote:

I think a recent software update might have made it impossible to add the valid "Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer" company to a release now.

https://www.filmo.gs/company/10502-metro-goldwyn-mayer

When I cut and pasted that from the valid page to a newer release, it doesn't show that company but only gives the option to create a company. I went ahead and allowed it to "create" a company, thinking that it might find the valid one, but it didn't. It created this company instead with my one entry in it.

https://www.filmo.gs/company/347909-metro-goldwyn-mayer

I went back in to edit it, thinking this time it would find the valid company, but it now finds neither of these two, the good one nor the one just created. I think a software change needs fixing to ensure there's a way to get more releases added to the valid company there.

Right now, when I try to add a company and type "Metro", the only matching company to show up in a selection list is:

Metro - Goldwyn - Mayer Distribution Co.

This problem isn't browser specific, as this happens both in Safari and in Chrome for me. Rather than create another duplicate company creating more problems, I'm leaving all "Metro "* companies out of the company list for a release and just listing them in the submission notes at the bottom. I just added a release doing so...

Another duplicate I accidentally created, though I think the one I created without seeing the first accurately has a space in the middle of the company name if you look at both releases back cover images. Should merge these.

Original:
https://www.filmo.gs/company/270637-dinovi-pictures

Duplicate:

https://www.filmo.gs/company/349524-di-novi-pictures

I've cleaned those search results up some more. Am still working on improvements but Metro-G should now return the correct Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer and Metro should return more MGM related companies.

Another question. Are these the same? And if so which is the correct?
https://www.filmo.gs/company/311273-metro-goldwyn-mayer-distribution-co
https://www.filmo.gs/company/216410-metro-goldwyn-mayer-distributing-corporation

ORIGINAL - https://www.filmo.gs/company/9374-dreamworks-llc

NAME VARIANT? - https://www.filmo.gs/company/350096-dreamworks-llc

Name appears with and without a comma on different releases.

Ok so i found a company "Hustler Video" which i did not create, should i remove the pornographic websities it links too?

lexiconangel is the one who created this company.

for example itlinks too there main website and International adult film database, both display pornographic images and think linking such items to these websities should not be allowed.

Created this one by accident... Please remove duplicate.

Good one...
https://www.filmo.gs/company/334880-mgm-special-edition

Duplicate...
https://www.filmo.gs/company/355117-mgm-special-e

Not really a duplicate company, but similar. These two series collections should be merged as they are talking about the same series, with different dvd releases in each that all should be together.

https://www.filmo.gs/company/112993-warner-bros-archive-collection

https://www.filmo.gs/company/115006-warner-archive-collection

Not a duplicate, but this company credit should be split up in to two companies instead of combined in to one as it is here...

https://www.filmo.gs/company/222200-erre-produzioni-s-p-a-reteitalia

Just had a release with one of them which I created for it. So perhaps just take the last half off of this credit, and add these two films to the newer Reteitalia company credit I created for the newer release.

https://www.filmo.gs/company/357090-reteitalia

sameuser who made those fake companies made a dupe of this company.

https://www.filmo.gs/company/245918-brad-grey-television - Main
https://www.filmo.gs/credit/357955-brad-grey-television - Dupe

can someone of the staff get in touch with this user?

the last 3 posts i made is of the same user and again this is from that user once again.

https://www.filmo.gs/company/359470-warner-columbia-tristar-home-entertainment - dupe (fake googled the company and only the real one pops up nothing about Warner)

https://www.filmo.gs/company/9094-columbia-tristar-home-entertainment - Real

https://www.filmo.gs/company/359454-warner-columbia-tristar-home-video - dupe (Fake again no warner pops up in front of this company)

https://www.filmo.gs/company/9862-columbia-tristar-home-video - real

Thanks, i've merged or removed these duplicates and got in touch with the user who's making questionable edits.

thank you falsepriest

A couple of sets of duplicates that looks like they were created with a spelling error in them as well...

Original with spelling error:
https://www.filmo.gs/company/49912-film-entertainment-vip-medienfondsd-3-gmbh-co-kg

Duplicate spelled properly:
https://www.filmo.gs/company/165831-film-entertainment-vip-medienfonds-3-gmbh-co-kg

Another with similar spelling error:
https://www.filmo.gs/company/49911-film-entertainment-vip-medienfondsd-2-gmbh-co-kg

danielle still making dupes.

the one that jj spotted was made by her and the one below is also a dupe.

https://www.filmo.gs/company/360895-warner-bros-entertainment-poland dupe

https://www.filmo.gs/company/64340-warner-bros-poland real - even know it should be renamed to Polska

https://www.filmo.gs/company/8891-warner-home-video Main
https://www.filmo.gs/credit/287984-warner-home-video Duplicate
https://www.filmo.gs/company/9349-warner-home-video-inc Duplicate
https://www.filmo.gs/company/360997-warner-home-video Duplicate

May I suggest the scroll in the entry box to be extended, because the users who made the release pages may not find the main company and these two duplicates were created in one day

Original (empty with a comma instead of a period at the end):
https://www.filmo.gs/company/288592-the-producer-circle-co

Duplicate (with entries and a logo with it and spelled properly)...
https://www.filmo.gs/company/332377-the-producer-circle-co

Please delete these 2 companies
https://www.filmo.gs/company/362690-scanbox-entertainment
https://www.filmo.gs/company/362687-warner-home-entertainment

It's my fault. Didn't pay attention.

Thanx
// zamla_71

Not really a duplicate, but it functions as one, as some of us probably misinterpret MM as part of the credit name when it in fact is the year 2000 as a copyright date in front of "Image Entertainment, Inc."

So move the following releases from this company...

https://www.filmo.gs/company/52828-mm-image-entertainment-inc

and update their copyright dates to 2000 in each of them, and move to this company instead.

https://www.filmo.gs/company/9184-image-entertainment-inc

I'll move my entries as such from there...

mikewn wrote:

Not really a duplicate, but it functions as one, as some of us probably misinterpret MM as part of the credit name when it in fact is the year 2000 as a copyright date in front of "Image Entertainment, Inc."

So move the following releases from this company...

https://www.filmo.gs/company/52828-mm-image-entertainment-inc

and update their copyright dates to 2000 in each of them, and move to this company instead.

https://www.filmo.gs/company/9184-image-entertainment-inc

I'll move my entries as such from there...

Perhaps a few more company credits fit this pattern and should be corrected too..

https://www.filmo.gs/company/242406-mm-trash-tours

https://www.filmo.gs/company/250125-mm-mmi-cbs-broadcasting-inc

https://www.filmo.gs/company/250093-mm-mmi-cbs-broadcasting-in

jjschepis wrote:

https://www.filmo.gs/company/8891-warner-home-video Main
https://www.filmo.gs/credit/287984-warner-home-video Duplicate
https://www.filmo.gs/company/9349-warner-home-video-inc Duplicate
https://www.filmo.gs/company/360997-warner-home-video Duplicate

May I suggest the scroll in the entry box to be extended, because the users who made the release pages may not find the main company and these two duplicates were created in one day

I'm having that problem now. I'm finding it impossible to have warner-home-video show up in the lilst no matter how many characters I type in. Didn't want to create a duplicate. I found a workaround! Just go to the company page and cut and paste the url in to the selection box. It will go ahead and select it for you that way! Still need to fix this for users not knowing that entries aren't showing up on the list if they haven't been here, bu for those of us that are trying to work around the problem, this works to deal with it.

Not a company https://www.filmo.gs/company/378171-dolby-surround

i also think merseybeat65 is daniellejackson and matt-jackson please stop this user as they have not stopped and resume to create fake companies and dupes.

Real - https://www.filmo.gs/company/378172-carsey-werner-mandabach-company-llc

Dupe - https://www.filmo.gs/credit/378174-carsey-werner-mandabach-company

i know it does not say llc after dupe but the picture has llc after tye company name of dupe

Thanks, I've merged most of these now.
Some have the difference of being Credit pages, vs. Company pages, which can't be merged. This is something we have to figure out in the submission form. It may make sense to add a Company field to Film pages so we don't duplicate production companies or other company types contributors want to add to Films. We'll take it into consideration.
I've left the main Warner Home Video and Warner Home Video, Inc. as separate pages as they each have corresponding Discogs pages.

falsepriest wrote:

Thanks, I've merged most of these now.
Some have the difference of being Credit pages, vs. Company pages, which can't be merged. This is something we have to figure out in the submission form. It may make sense to add a Company field to Film pages so we don't duplicate production companies or other company types contributors want to add to Films. We'll take it into consideration.
I've left the main Warner Home Video and Warner Home Video, Inc. as separate pages as they each have corresponding Discogs pages.

I don't think it's much harm to have both company and credit pages, all I think that should be done (that I have been trying to do) is to make sure that they match and link to each other.

regarding this would I be correct that pages both with and without for example "Ltd" are viable to have pages? Personally it would make sence to have one without such info and then to ANV on the film/release to clean things up and to put as many eggs into the same basket.

More fake companies by mersey please stop this user he is now adding audio channels as companies and ignores the warnings i have left.

https://www.filmo.gs/company/378698-dolby-digital-surround-ex
https://www.filmo.gs/company/378700-dolby-digital
https://www.filmo.gs/company/378701-dolby-stereo-digital

Please ban this users IP Addreas as he will just create another account and do the same in the past.

Jo_Store wrote:

real - https://www.filmo.gs/company/99222-wwe-studios
dupe - https://www.filmo.gs/credit/359469-wwe-studios

One is a credit, one is a company, both are valid.

oh whoops didn't notice that

Real - https://www.filmo.gs/company/152829-virgin-music
Dupe - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Records

User keeps making dupes i reused one but he just keeps making them, copyrighing directly from Discogs.

User keeps making dupes i reused one but he just keeps making them, copyrighing directly from Discogs

This is the first time you mentioned it, and it is NOT copied from Discogs. I have this release and if I make images for Discogs, I will use them on both sites. Kinda silly to scan everything twice! Also on Discogs Virgin Music and Virgin Records are 2 different labels.

I agree, from what I've seen here it's companies based on how they are written, not putting them under one umbrella of what the company is called, both Virgin Music and Virgin Records should be viable accounts.

My perssonal opinion is that we should only have one page without terms like Ltd/Inc/LLC after the name and then add those terms via ANV.

As such Virgon Records already had a page
https://www.filmo.gs/company/50386-virgin-records-ltd

I already made a new company "Virgin EMI Records", the company/label should be the same as on the release. The Ltd/inc/LLC can be important at some point, so I shouldn't put everything on one page.

As an example:
DVD "Enigma - MCMXC a.D." has the logo "Virgin Records"
DVD "Enigma - A Posteriori" has the logo "Virgin Music".

Ltd, Inc., LCC etc will be used for (p), (c) and publishing. Company is global

Jesus virgin records is allready on here stop making dupes Remco.

TheWho87 wrote:

I agree, from what I've seen here it's companies based on how they are written, not putting them under one umbrella of what the company is called, both Virgin Music and Virgin Records should be viable accounts.

My perssonal opinion is that we should only have one page without terms like Ltd/Inc/LLC after the name and then add those terms via ANV.

As such Virgon Records already had a page
https://www.filmo.gs/company/50386-virgin-records-ltd

Yeah my mistake on putting them under one unbrella i am also sick and tired of seing like 100's of LLC/LTD/INC etc after the company for example i have to put in the number for Warner Home Video as all the incs and ltd etc come up first.

And then more dupes are made of warner home video as other users can't find it and dupes are made.

either the search needs updating or the 100's of llc/ltd/inc needs to be fixed.

I don not agree about the dupres:
https://www.filmo.gs/company/379832-virgin-records is label
https://www.filmo.gs/company/50386-virgin-records-ltd is publishing, (P), (C) etc.
They should NOT be merged

I think was Jo was refering to was more the type of things like having all the following as seperate pages

  • Company Ltd
  • Company, Ltd
  • Company, Ltd.
  • Company Ltd.
  • Company Limited

Yes, but he wants to merge Virgin Records Ltd. and Virgin Records (see 4 posts up). I agree that the companies should be merged with different typing of Ltd / Inc. / BV. So only Virgin Records and Virgin Records Ltd can not be merged. And when they will be merged, the dupe is Virgin Records Ltd.

Even when you merge all "Ltd", there will always be somebody who makes a new one. Too many ways of wirting it.

Yeah I agree with that, my view is that you need a page for every name a company has been under followed by an alternate with each of the LLC/Ltd/Inc variants, that should cover all uses that should be present.

Another thing, Jo is changing releases he doesn't own. I had to update 2 releases I made years ago. There is no Virgin Records Ltd. on the releases, but now it was suddenly production and copyright.

Sandra: Complete History
Label: Virgin Records
(p) Virgin Music (a division of EMI Music Germany GmbH & Co. KG
(c) Virgin Music (a division of EMI Music Germany GmbH & Co. KG

So by messing up the release "Enigma - MCMXC a.D." I had to make a new one "Virgin Schallplatten GmbH"

TheWho87 wrote:

Yeah I agree with that, my view is that you need a page for every name a company has been under followed by an alternate with each of the LLC/Ltd/Inc variants, that should cover all uses that should be present.

The Who87 is see you are updating the music section. Just in my defence... at the time I entered these there was no "music" to choose, only musical. There has been a lot of changes the last months, so sorry for the work :-)

That's interesting, he had a go with me on here when I first started since I didnt follow the rules by not owning a physical copy, I had limited info from the companies catalog and was adding based off that. Even though the guidelines did allow what I did but it was a grey area.

It is a grey area, but all additions I did, was with a physical copy in hand. So I know what's on the release. And in both cases (Sandra and Enigma) there is no "Virgin Records Ltd." on the release. Both are German and have GmbH behind the name.

That's also where the trouble starts. A American release is somewhat different to a European release. Especially with music. Right societies, labels etc.

I have corrected both and in some time I will review my whole collection again.

remco2502 wrote:

Main: https://www.filmo.gs/company/126153-virgil-films
Dupe: https://www.filmo.gs/company/341878-virgin-films

Typo, the images say Virgil Films

Incorrect, they can all be found here
http://www.virgilfilms.com/

Yes, but that's what I'm saying, keep https://www.filmo.gs/company/126153-virgil-films and remove https://www.filmo.gs/company/341878-virgin-films. The submitter made a typo VirgiNfilms instead of VirgiLfilm.

Ah my bad, your focus on Virgin companies recently lead me to think Virgil was the problem.

No Virgil Films is right and yes, I try to make "Virgin" somewhat easier to use.

Main - https://www.filmo.gs/company/9363-image-entertainment
Duplicate - https://www.filmo.gs/company/382442-image-entertainment

looked on back of release and the duplicate image of the company matches the main companies image.

Are these the same??

i would say yes as EAV is just the short way of saying Educational Audio Visual and then just adding Inc.

https://www.filmo.gs/company/382458-eav

https://www.filmo.gs/company/382459-educational-audio-visual-inc

i think if it says both EAV and Educational Audio Visual just use the name variation for Educational Audio Visual but it couod be different nowadays.

Wait what? https://www.filmo.gs/company/383639-universal-television-enterprises-inc-executive-distributor

Does that even count as a company the new mattjackaon made it.

https://www.filmo.gs/company/135166-universal-monsters unsure if this warrents as a company.

Jo_Store wrote:

https://www.filmo.gs/company/135166-universal-monsters unsure if this warrents as a company.

I believe this would fall under the role of a series.

Series: This field is currently used for sub-brands or series of releases from a brand. Some examples include Paramount's Widescreen Collection or MGM's Movie Time series.

Thanks all, I've merged now

The dupe most of the time is the one thst shows up on the list. Hadn't noticed two until just now. A lot of films on both lists that need merging.
https://www.filmo.gs/company/21694-anchor-bay-entertainment-llc
https://www.filmo.gs/company/316745-anchor-bay-entertainment-llc

Main - https://www.filmo.gs/company/8891-warner-home-video
Dupe - https://www.filmo.gs/company/387226-warner-video

the dvd has the warner bros home video logo on back of casen and copyright i think 2003 unsure as copyright is bad quality image.

Good original:
https://www.filmo.gs/company/81154-canadian-film-or-video-production-tax-credit-cptc

Duplicate:
https://www.filmo.gs/company/362104-the-canadian-or-video-production-tax-credit

I think I might have created the duplicate a while back when typing "the" in front of the company as it was in the credits, the other one didn't show up at the time. It also left out "film" too, but I've moved the two films to the original credit, so this one can be removed or "reused" for something else.

Thanks, these have been merged

The two duplicates are created by me. Sorry.

There are a lot of "Warner Home Video Something"

Warner Home Video does not appear in the search field

UG1002 wrote:

Original https://www.filmo.gs/company/8891-warner-home-video

duplicate https://www.filmo.gs/company/391163-warner-home-video

duplicate https://www.filmo.gs/company/391603-warner-home-video

unsure why warner companies have the most duplicates

Duplicates of this music distributor
https://www.filmo.gs/company/282847-vital
https://www.filmo.gs/company/384014-vital

omelby wrote:

unsure why warner companies have the most duplicates

Just a guess, but Warner Bros used to dominate markets in sell-thru around the world. Perhaps more Warner product means more mistakes?

I'm not sure why I didn't see this earlier entry when creating the duplicate. Have put the film on to the other company instead.

Original:
https://www.filmo.gs/company/325454-fidecine

Duplicate:
https://www.filmo.gs/company/390662-fidecine

Created this company duplicate by accident with the same film, with the first entry not having a period at the end and the second one having it. Corrected this and consolidated so that:

Good Entry:
https://www.filmo.gs/company/375164-neoclassics-films-ltd

Duplicate to remove or repurpose:
https://www.filmo.gs/company/375155-neoclassics-films-ltd

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